tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1254315679163990153.post9205109040519998614..comments2023-09-09T09:36:50.321+01:00Comments on Systems Thinking for Demanding Change: Norms MatterRichard Veryardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04499123397533975655noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1254315679163990153.post-81867833534831429342009-06-16T09:12:22.352+01:002009-06-16T09:12:22.352+01:00Thanks Catus. However, I don't read your jelly...Thanks Catus. However, I don't read your jelly bean example in terms of norms, but simply as a badly designed and counterproductive incentive scheme - like so many other incentive schemes in our "target culture".<br /><br />Of course, the longer-term goal of the parent is to get the child to internalize the norms - to behave well without the jelly bean bribe - but often the short-term goal (getting the children to shut up now) takes precedence.<br /><br />I don't know if you can listen to the Reith Lecture or read the transcript outside the UK, but if you can I encourage you to do so, because he had some more good examples.Richard Veryardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04499123397533975655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1254315679163990153.post-48079583137422718782009-06-16T07:24:11.179+01:002009-06-16T07:24:11.179+01:00Hi Richard,
This reminds me of a friend who rewar...Hi Richard,<br /><br />This reminds me of a friend who rewards his little kids jelly beans for not disturbing others and behaving themselves. The result: the kids knows when to disturb others to get their reward!<br />That's true learning and intelligence to me.Catus Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02590946677129487203noreply@blogger.com